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	<title>Comments on: jBPM Screencast: from the drawing board straight to executable BPMN 2.0</title>
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	<description>Small steps with big feet</description>
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		<title>By: Anatoly Belychook</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator>Anatoly Belychook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joram

Your team&#039;s commitment to BPMN is what many of BPM practitioners are very glad to see indeed so let me wish you moving this way fast and smoothly.

But you only talk about process orchestration at the moment; choreography (messages, event gateways, pools) are not implemented. This means that jBPM can only be used at simple scenarios like vacations requests and other things far from &quot;real business&quot;. End-to-end cross-functional business processes can only be implemeted with choreography.

BPMN is a new feature and a work in progress at jBPM so it&#039;s OK for now; what upsets me is that I didn&#039;t find choreography mentioned in the jBPM roadmap.

Could you please share your thoughts on the matter? (Sorry if I picked the wrong place to ask such a question.)

Thank you.

Anatoly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joram</p>
<p>Your team&#8217;s commitment to BPMN is what many of BPM practitioners are very glad to see indeed so let me wish you moving this way fast and smoothly.</p>
<p>But you only talk about process orchestration at the moment; choreography (messages, event gateways, pools) are not implemented. This means that jBPM can only be used at simple scenarios like vacations requests and other things far from &#8220;real business&#8221;. End-to-end cross-functional business processes can only be implemeted with choreography.</p>
<p>BPMN is a new feature and a work in progress at jBPM so it&#8217;s OK for now; what upsets me is that I didn&#8217;t find choreography mentioned in the jBPM roadmap.</p>
<p>Could you please share your thoughts on the matter? (Sorry if I picked the wrong place to ask such a question.)</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Anatoly</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3959</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 11:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, great webcast!

Do you have a tutorial or a tip how to set up a development environment for jBMP ? 

I want to repeat you steps, and get to know it better.

I&#039;m using OS X too, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, great webcast!</p>
<p>Do you have a tutorial or a tip how to set up a development environment for jBMP ? </p>
<p>I want to repeat you steps, and get to know it better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using OS X too, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: jkt</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3958</link>
		<dc:creator>jkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joram: Great ! Thanks for the doc. I am diving into it right now ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joram: Great ! Thanks for the doc. I am diving into it right now ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Joram</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3956</link>
		<dc:creator>Joram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jkt: check out http://docs.jboss.org/jbpm/v4/devguide/html_single/#bpmn2 or http://www.slideshare.net/jimarlow/introductiontobpmn005

That&#039;s the great part about an open spec: you&#039;ll find plenty of resources online/books!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jkt: check out <a href="http://docs.jboss.org/jbpm/v4/devguide/html_single/#bpmn2" rel="nofollow">http://docs.jboss.org/jbpm/v4/devguide/html_single/#bpmn2</a> or <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/jimarlow/introductiontobpmn005" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/jimarlow/introductiontobpmn005</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the great part about an open spec: you&#8217;ll find plenty of resources online/books!</p>
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		<title>By: jkt</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3955</link>
		<dc:creator>jkt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Thanks for your cast. I am a newbie with BPMN so I would like to know what are exactly your different tasks ? I mean : how do you implement them ? what is their role/functionality ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Thanks for your cast. I am a newbie with BPMN so I would like to know what are exactly your different tasks ? I mean : how do you implement them ? what is their role/functionality ?</p>
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		<title>By: KrisDS</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3954</link>
		<dc:creator>KrisDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 07:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice cast. No subtitles necessary either. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice cast. No subtitles necessary either. <img src='http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: erics</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3953</link>
		<dc:creator>erics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you snotted on the screen somewhere in the middle... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you snotted on the screen somewhere in the middle&#8230; <img src='http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rex Sheridan</title>
		<link>http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2010/01/28/screencast_bpm2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-3952</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great screencast.  Thankyou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great screencast.  Thankyou.</p>
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